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28/08/2004 The Conceptions of the MInd Neti Neti Conversatin

bindu says:
swami is here and Subra-ji is living with me

tyrone says:
ah good could say hi, to them for me?
bindu says:
i'll do better than that,  i will get sibra

tyrone says:
hi 
subbuji says:
hello subbuji here.

tyrone says:
hi subuji. how are u

subbuji says:
i am doing fine, it's been great to be here with bindu, i wish u were here too

tyrone says:
ya i know

subbuji  says:
i am sure we are going to have a great time, for the next one week, he's worked hard
and has lined up great Programmes

tyrone says:
how are things looking

subbuji says:
things are looking very positive

tyrone says:
thats good

subbuji says:
yes

tyrone says:
is it your first time in Australia?

subbuji says:
Welll its my first time outside India for that matter

tyrone says:
ok, you know what confuses me is that if the Self is all why do we use the 'neti neti' technique to locate the Self?

bindu says:
There are two ways, one is the way of annihilation and one is the way of inclusion and acceptance; with Ananta yoga we use both at once for example, we use the idea that all is The Self as you know, and with neti neti, we say neti neti only in meditation.

When we meditate the mind has a tendency to try to describe or ideate, what the self is
when i say what The Self is... i mean, it tries to form a conception of what The Self is in HIMSELF, so we say to the mind neti neti.

tyrone says:
so it can focus more?

bindu says:
Yes, however the classic use of the term neti neti in the exterior world, has taken on the meaning of not this not this this; but the meaning neti neti has taken on in the world is incorrect, as it is exclusive of everything and everyone, in short it is nihilistic.

Ananta seeks to easily lead one to the self by non-exclusion, which due to non rejection does not cause aberrations or discord in the psychological mind through which we interact with the world, yet when we meditate, we do not allow the mind to form a conception or think what the self (allow the mind to describe it or reveal it by reasoning. We can only arrive at the point of recognition that it must accept the impossibility of description or ideation.
In short it is the final acceptance of the indefinable you see.

tyrone says:
yes

bindu says:
questions?

tyrone says:
Not at the moment no

bindu says:
ok... we have not spoken much lately, as i have been in credibly busy, i will try to come each morning though before we go out.

tyrone says:
yes i have to mention that i stopped that prana technique on your website, because laying on my back. my back started hurting. so a while ago i started chanting the Bhagavad-Gita before meditation.

bindu says:
good.

tyrone says:
You know there was a time when i thought that Sri-Yogananda works were kind of too light but now that i've been chanting from his translation and reading his commentary i see that his teachings are still based in non duality.

bindu says:
Yes they are, but he is very gentle, too slow a path for my likings

tyrone says:
What do you think of his interpretation that the yoga that Sri-Krishna is expounding in the Bhagavad-Gita is Kriya yoga?

bindu says:
Well as i told you, due to all being the self, the Cosmos is my Karma and my Kriya also as well as my Jnana

tyrone says:
yes

bindu says:
Do you understand or at least get a feel for the last statement?

tyrone says:
The manifest universe exists due to the thought that occurred in the Self who is also the knower of this.

tyrone says:
but there was something that jarred the creation to be born

bindu says:
Yes, and the actor also, what you say above is a way of saying it, but not exactly correct since the self does not think, but we will talk on it later.

bindu says:
Now the rush of the day begins, see you dear

tyrone says:
ok bye bindu

bindu says:
yes something, potential .....existing in the absolute, this is Sakti
bye now

tyrone says:
bye.

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