Getting time to meditate on the I-I is a matter of constant thought that whatever you come in contact with is I-I there is no other than I the consciousness you see.

How can i think of anything that is not I? (which translates to) The essential nature of everything is worthy of being known. It is said that the mind is knowledge (because knowledge is obtained through the mind). One should consider knowledge to be identical with the object of knowledge. There is no way other than that to liberation.

One should consider knowledge to be identical with the object of knowledge. i.e. it is the self, all knowledge then is the same. The objective world then, and the Self.. are merged, such that there is no longer any question of what knowledge is this or that.......... it is a case of this is the consciousness ....

Knowledge is always about something......... but the only thing that exists is the consciousness so then there is an end of knowledge and its object.

Tyrone:
When i try to think of nothing. and concentrate on awareness. the only thing i cant eliminate is the breath. will that drop off with time?

bindu:
Well the breath seems to last a certain time, a time of inhaling and a time of exhaling, simply look at it and know that although it seems such a short time passes for each in and each out those times are eternal, this is the trick of understanding how to transcend time realize the  self is infinite therefore that which is seeing such a short breath is really seeing the complete manifestation and re-absorption of the universe happening each time the breath goes in and goes out.

Think about this a moment ..

This consciousness which is existing beyond eternal Time... looks at the eternal vibration existing as the breath, (it is called the Spanda principal) is so incredible that no matter how long or short a duration of time has passed. to the consciousness it looks like a moment.

So the breath goes in and goes out..... ignore the body and think what is happening here - the consciousness is creating the Cosmos via the breath, and re-absorbing it via the breath so... who is breathing? Certainly not the body  the waves of Spanda-Shakti pulse as the Cosmic dance that lasts eternally.......... or less than a heart beat... to it there is no difference.

Tyrone:
hmm. well i read that the breath could symbolize birth and death. but i never thought that witnessing it could be the same as witnessing the cosmos

bindu:
So then ask the witnessing consciousness who is noticing the breath the following question:

Say to it, Who is breathing in what?

Understand that the waves of breath are like the tides of the ocean, they rise and fall it cannot be emphasized enough, that time no matter how long or how short, is nothing to the eternal consciousness. 

So then small or large makes utterly no difference yet we humans think a microsecond is worthless we think a year or an eon is what is needed etc,,... a light-year etc.... We don't understand Time at all. The consciousness is beyond it no matter the duration of time that passes is it not the consciousness that notices it? That consciousness sees a trillion years as nothing.

Tyrone:
but watching the breath is not the same as 'attention attending attention' though

bindu says:
No i am not saying watch the breath.. i am telling you how to look at it, then once you know what it is, it does not matter if you breath or not... ignore it; merge your attention back into the attention or awareness watching awareness.

Do not separate the breath or the fact that your body is breathing from the whole. (saying i exist because there is breath is only another way of being an I) Know that the Spanda-Shakti is doing all breathing in all cases... In Time, planets. stars, suns, the very universe arise and dissolve, this is the Spanda also; The breath is not separate from that leave the breath to the Spanda-Shakti. 

This process (Spanda-Shakti) is OM .... it is eternal, but not infinite.... because it vibrates in and out of being; the eternally infinite is another matter Sri-Nissagadatta says: "It is not light nor dark, not black nor white it is dark blue" (signifying it in itself.....) 

How i see things is like the following:

i walk down the street, i see people... i hear sounds, see thoughts arise as a result. i allow then to dissolve in myself.. ... in the silence......... in the non-visible... both the silence and the invisible is myself you see...those things that have arisen i.e. people, sounds and so on the sun, the sky all are in me; i do not allow them to be suns, people, sounds etc. or I stop walking, i am peace, stillness... nothing moves in me i walk, peace walks.

Sri- Nissagadatta says; "When the utility of what is noticed is thought upon there is the ego" Right at that moment ego is born and the universe becomes visible; do not look at the thoughts as they arise until they are merging into the consciousness which is the self you will then see that they are the consciousness

If we  think . what does this mean? or ... oh my goodness isn't that woman beautiful or gee i love this food, or i want that thing i am looking at and so on... as we perceive those things we lose the contact with the consciousness - right there.

We should say to ourselves instead - this means the self.... all this is the self this too is the self, beauty is the self and so on.

When we say the self, what we are really saying is that self over there i.e. we are remaining separate from the self and pointing at it; this is the incorrect way to understand, we must see that that which points and that which is seen is the same it merely looks different if we look at it in the context of how our body can interact with the object or person seen etc... 

When we look at is as The Self seeing The Self in The Self there is no need to have the thing as it is The Self also; to get this set in the jiva though, we have to make the jiva dissolve into the watcher and become the watcher as completely as possible this is what we must practice

i don't say ignore all else per se, but i do say know the nature of what you are seeing instead, because it is easier that way. i wish i could describe to you this state, but words cease as they end at its edge.. all we can try to do is lead one to the edge.... and point it is like sky dissolving into sky the objects become sky then merge with

sky but to make them become sky you have to be sky knowing they are sky

then their form is lost in you. We must reside in the sky.. in the consciousness as The Formless Infinite  Being; in that case there is no such being as a man or woman or any other being, because there is no universe. no cosmos. No people - nothing but I-I

What am I? i am an empty sky whose consciousness is also sky, whose self is neti-neti sky.......... i am empty.................... utterly full of myself - which is empty - neti-neti.. all this dissolves into emptiness just as it does with time. 

i am that place into which it merges. so then looking at those objects i take them into my very self which is the emptiness; it is sort of like speeding up Time or not allowing it to begin; i reside there but in that place there is no I who is like anything. 

Light radiates out of me but i am not light matter exists in me but i am not matter energy results from the interaction of light and matter but i am not energy I am that in which all exists space appears to exist in me due to the interaction of energy and matter which give the illusion of time having passed, whereas no time passes in me. 

Who would notice Time if you were dead?  Not you, you are beyond Time; you are my very self.. because you do not exist in any form what so-ever you are the watcher of the consciousness........ without time there is no consciousness of this or that there is merely the conscious . I-I OM there is therefore no such thing as what consciousness is conscious of ... there is merely The Infinite formless Being . 

Give up Tyrone's existence.. not his life............ give up thinking he exists; instead think who am I? in whom do these thoughts arise if Tyrone does not exist? in who does this non-existence reside?

i have said the consciousness does not exist in me beyond Time. To be conscious of an object such as the cosmos time must pass, just as your P.C needs a time clock in whose ticks the processor can process info so does the Jiva require time in which to act, so then go beyond time the jiva will die very quickly but it is not really correct to say die the jiva is dissolved into nothingness that nothingness is the Brahman, it is the conscious i-i beyond form.

Tyrone:
So where does non-existence reside?

bindu:
How can non-existence reside Tyrone? That is why it is infinite because it cannot be said to reside or be. yet it exists; this appears strange .... but i can tell you that non-existent ONE is actually conscious, not with attributes, not as a form, not as a being.

Tyrone:
So the world resides in the unmanifest but it cannot be the other way around?

 bindu says:
Yes that is correct. That is why you must teach yourself to reside in yourself and is also why a man cannot say he is now enlightened, as it is that non-existent who is the one who recognizes his own consciousness. we use the terms "His" and "HE" but that is not really correct it is a metaphor i guess he (it) has no body... no beingness, no attributes, no limit. Imagine you are water in water in infinite water........ or light in light in infinite light that is as close as language can come to describing it.

Tyrone:
or silence but that's even tougher to decipher

bindu:
Sri-Nissagadatta says..... The cosmos arose from concept.... Matrka says that is arises from sounds (i.e. syllables) of letters, nada, a single concept of I, that or this.... causes the cosmos, i am not ............ i have become "NOT" this very statement is a contradiction. The Time scenario, as described above i think is easier for the mind to grasp; so then if it is an utter contradiction such as light in light in infinite light how then can any "THING" be conscious there? It (the infinite ) is The Conscious ONE - imagine. thus there is no one. thus all things merge into me this is how to look at whatever you experience. 

Another example is:
Science proves that all atoms at the heart arise out of and as photons of light thus it is all light what is weird is that light is conscious this whole talk  makes it very clear.

In the mind of Tyrone. In the physical brain the are synapses across which sparks of electricity jump when they cease Tyrone dies thus that light is in Tyrone as those sparks that is why Tyrone is warm that spark has heated him up but all heat is borrowed from the stars so these stars are the source of being, but all stars are from one event so that event is the advent of the Cosmos. Yet that occurs faster than the eye can see faster than thought the universe dies and is dead for countless centuries which seem like the length of a breath… eons; but who breathes? who sees that breathing? That one cannot be said to exist as that would imply (by reference) a time when he did not exist. Nor can it be said he has an ending ......... he exists when the breath is held as the watcher the breath when released manifests the cosmos. 

Understand that everything seen or cognated is already going into the dissolution as time is passing, that which you look at is not what it was ten minutes ago nor even a nanosecond ago; it is a totally different thing; we must keep the Will held in the moment before things arise and merge all things that arise back into that moment by recognition as to their true nature. 

So, then what arises? and why? in what? It all arises in me. Nothing can arise that is not in me, because it is all myself. So then nothing truly arises at all does it? Could it then be said that i arise? what do you think?

 Tyrone:
Well. yes. and to keep this outlook continuously is meditation.

bindu:
Yes, not to sit and meditate from Time to Time, but to make it constant Sri-Nissagadatta says "The memory is the whole problem."

So then i am sitting here thinking nothing arises except my own self then my wife comes home, what has happened? I mean i did not think of her, why did she come? can you answer this?

Tyrone:
ok. um, was it the thought of 'i' that arose spontaneously and then this thought of the wife followed. 

bindu:
No, she came in the door. why?

Tyrone:
That's what you use to get in the house. 

bindu says:
No, no. No-one and nothing arises but me in myself she did not come no one was seen nothing happened but myself in myself. 

Tyrone:
oh...so its like 'can there be a world with no one to perceive it" 

bindu says:
Yes, that is what i am driving at. If the sky could see itself it would see nothing but itself yes?

 Tyrone:
yes

 bindu:
So in the same way the nothing sees nothing; the hard part is getting past Time; for example the mind has this annoying habit of describing things, this is how it binds us to Time we listen for the duration of its blathering, then once it has finished the experience finishes and we are left outside of the truth again empty handed. so the trick is to ignore its descriptions or deliberately make it understand that what it is reporting to the awareness is merely another particle of the nothingness....... of The Self... of The Consciousness........ merge those reports into the invisible, stay in the NOW where there is no arising or dissolution don't let the cosmos grow out of the seed go about your life seeing things, doing things, experiencing things etc... but always merge them into the infinite truth of that which looks at the mind stay in that.

Yet as it is said the truth can only be found by making awareness become aware of itself. Without the cosmos that of which we are aware is awareness in all cases. We are aware of sights & sounds the body is not, it does not exist in The Absolute else a dead man could hear and see and so on.

 Awareness is always there the hardest thing is to get it thru our thick heads that the awareness is the self neither the body nor the subtle I nor the mind is the Self neither is the emotional being... nor is the soul... jiva is not. 

The Self is infinite....... all that exists recedes into the past, it goes into non-existence .. from which it arose......... in all beings there is something which notices this and that event in its body organism that is the same awareness as in all.......... this is hard to accept because of a pride and arrogance that is as deep as the DNA of a species or of a genus.... that ego must go. 

Western humans uniquely think that Man alone has a soul how stupid. this pride is the individual awareness.... which makes all beings eat, it makes them run from danger, it makes them procreate............ it makes them navigate thru obstacles and so on and on blah, blah, blah.

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